Changes in Windows Update Service

Published on April 1, 2005 By _02 In Windows XP

This is for all those out there who update windows manually and have automatic updates turned off. From now on the only way to get windows updates is to have their service TURNED ON when you go to manually scan for updates. Otherwise you will be instructed on how to turn it on. So I turned it on and was scanned for updates. When I was done I turned it off again. What a pain. I do not like having automatic updates turned on because I dont like MS to have that much control over my computer. So, from now on it will be a big pain for all those like me who like to do windows updates manually.

Comments (Page 3)

kona0197

on Apr 06, 2005

Raymond - Here is my system specs:

Shuttle socket A motherboard
AMD Athlon XP 2000+
Nvidia Nforce2 Chipset (NO onboard video)
Nvidia Gforce4 400 MX AGP 8x video card
512 Megs of Corsair 2100 DDR RAM
BTC 52x32x52 CDRW Dive
16x DVD-ROM
Lantec 10/100 PCI Net Card
Maxtor Fireball 3 40 Gig HDD

The only drivers I have to install when I reinstall XP are the Chipset (Nvidia) and Video Card (Nvidia) and I get those directly from Nvidias website.

I have tried old drivers and different hardware to no avail. SP2 slows the machine down to the point I want to through it across the room.

Elesarr

on Apr 06, 2005

I would try a completely different vendor for a video card kona. Do you have a second machine? Are you experiencing the same problems with it? Have you contacted Microsoft Support and explained to them in detail the problems you are experiencing so they can walk you through the repair/uninstall?

Using the deductive reasoning theory you only have problems when you install the drivers for the chipset and video card, so that is where the problem probably lies.

I have a box here I built myself with an Nvidia Gforce Video Card and do not experience any boot up issues or application launch problems. The conflict is on your machine and may not easily be fixed.

Again, this is not the way to try and diagnose a problem such as yours as I have no way to look physically at your machine and watch what is installed, how the install is performed, etc etc. I am not trying to put you off, just explain it is not practical.

Raymond

Elesarr

on Apr 06, 2005

kona -

I went to the Nvidia site and found this response: Link in the FAQs.

What version of DirectX9 are you using?

here is another one you might want to look at: Link

As I said there are many many factors involved.

Raymond

kona0197

on Apr 06, 2005

I'm using the latest DirectX and latest Nvidia drivers.

Even when I try using another video card the system still is very slow when using SP2.

Double Zero

on Apr 06, 2005

I have had it since it came out, Zero. To my suprise it is a very good program. Another good tool in the arsenal line of defense. Cindi

Thanks Cindi, I will hopefully have time to install and run it tonite. Im sure it's a decent utility, I actually didnt mean to "Bash" it in itself, it was more of a comparison towards the cost of Windows, the rules attached, and the offer of a free spyware program..just doesnt seem to add up..
But, thanks to Raymond, I have redone the math!..LoL, and it does "Add -Up"

It is easy to forget that MS does infact offer us free patches and upgrades to the OS for as long as 10 years after the release of the last service pack.I am still able to get Windows98SE updates for a couple of my machines and alot of my friends. After considering tha,t as Raymond explained it to me (not in so many words, but I got it..LoL) I really have no justification to complain. MS does "take Care of Us" all a little better than they get credit for.
I just allowed my ornery side to get the better part of reason is all, I am better now..LoL

Zero.

Elesarr

on Apr 06, 2005

kona - the first link I posted for you to read indicates that the latest Nvidia drivers are not compatible with DirectX9.0c which is latest version of DirectX...

It really is not possible for me to diagnose your computer in this manner: however, by reading what you have posted and using deductive theory the problem with SP2 is going to be tied to a configuration involving the hardware/software on your computer in some way shape or form. That may not be palatable, but it is the only logical conclusion.

I appreciate the kind words, Zero.... but I was just getting used to your ornery side

Raymond

kona0197

on Apr 06, 2005

Actually Raymond - the drivers they are talking about in your link are old drivers. 66.17 is outdated. The drivers I am using are 71.84 and they are DirectX compatible.

_02

on Apr 06, 2005

I just allowed my ornery side to get the better part of reason is all

It happens to the best of us Zero! I have had my moments on some of the threads. Anyway, glad you're feeling better! No offense or harm done. I know how you feel about MS. Sometimes I feel the same way! Cindi

Elesarr

on Apr 13, 2005

Well, I discovered something today as I did my Auto Update installs: Zero, clwoods I hate to say it but you are misinformed when it comes to the Auto Update feature of the new Windows Update Service. One does have the option to install updates one at a time or remove updates that have been found. You only have to choose a "Custom Install" when you are informed that updates are ready to be installed. Please see the attached images. I just wanted everyone to be aware of this functionality since the overall feeling of this thread is that Microsoft tries to limit and control everyone's computing environment. I will add that one probably has to have SP2 installed on their machine, but I cannot confirm that since I have no machines that are SP2 free.

Raymond

Double Zero

on Apr 13, 2005

I discovered the very same thing Raymond, when I was doing a little work on a friends PC over the weekend.. Of course I was keepin it quiet!..LoL! shhhhhhhhhhhh!

Zero.;

Elesarr

on Apr 13, 2005

LOL - sorry I let the cat out the bag Zero

and I meant no disrespect to you or cindi: I didn't know this either until today, I wanted to see what could possibly be a custom install with Auto Updates, normally I just do the express and get it over with

Peace

Raymond

Double Zero

on Apr 13, 2005

Raymond, would you quit being so damn "nice"..LoL!! I dont know about Cindi, but I can take a slap in the face once in awhile, and sometimes I even deserve it! shhhhhhhh..LoL

No disrespect noted, at all.. I also was very surprised at my discovery and felt quite foolish when I made it. Now I am going to charge that MS is reading this board and they changed the updates just to embarass me! to get even for my labeling them the "Evil Empire"
It coulda happened!..LoL

You know it's funny, my friend has the Auto Update feature turned on, she has ever since she's had her comp, but she has the toughest time remembering to install them, even with the balloon that pops-up informing her that updates are ready to install, LoL!. There were a total of 48 updates waiting installation when I arrived to "tune-up" her PC because she was complaining that it was running very slow..

9 trojans, 15 Adware items and 11 Spyware items..::laughs:: needless to say her PC is really working very well now!
Hopefully my preaching "Security" to her for the zillionth time has actually "sunk-in" but I doubt it...

Anyway, She has her fun with her home PC, downloading music, chatting, and surfing the web, playing Yahoo games, who am I to tell her she cant do that stuff without being paranoid about snoops, she just wants to have fun and relax at home on her PC without any concerns, so I guess I'll just be over there again in a month cleaning out the box..LoL

Take Care Raymond,
Zero.

Elesarr

on Apr 13, 2005

No disrespect noted, at all.. I also was very surprised at my discovery and felt quite foolish when I made it. Now I am going to charge that MS is reading this board and they changed the updates just to embarass me! to get even for my labeling them the "Evil Empire"
It coulda happened!..LoL

Thanks...:: blushing :: I just don't wanna make anyone mad...

You are probably right about Microsoft reading this thread - I was thinking something along the same lines.

Peace,

Raymond

_02

on Apr 13, 2005

I just don't wanna make anyone mad

I am not mad over your info or anything else. A person can't learn anything when their mad. I appreciate the info. Thankyou! Cindi

Elesarr

on Apr 13, 2005

thanks Cindi! you are welcome

Raymond

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