Changes in Windows Update Service

Published on April 1, 2005 By _02 In Windows XP

This is for all those out there who update windows manually and have automatic updates turned off. From now on the only way to get windows updates is to have their service TURNED ON when you go to manually scan for updates. Otherwise you will be instructed on how to turn it on. So I turned it on and was scanned for updates. When I was done I turned it off again. What a pain. I do not like having automatic updates turned on because I dont like MS to have that much control over my computer. So, from now on it will be a big pain for all those like me who like to do windows updates manually.

Comments (Page 1)

Double Zero

on Apr 01, 2005

Hi there Cindi.. A few weeks ago I mentioned the same thing in one of the threads here and no one had any clue as to what I was talking about.. Having to do that is bothersome to say the least!..
But you know..I only had to do it that once, since then I have performed Windows Updates again and I did not have to turn on the auto feature...So maybe it will work the same for you..
Hopefully!

Zero.

_02

on Apr 01, 2005

Thanks Zero, and sorry I did'nt see your thread. Thats probably why you are the only responder!! LOL I'll let ya know if I have the same luck. Hope you have a great weekend!
Cindi

Boss019

on Apr 02, 2005

I just tried it...didn't have to turn on auto update and also didn't have any updates to install, but my computer is only 3 weeks old....still, I figured they would have found some garbage for me to install

kingbee

on Apr 02, 2005

isnt that part of ms' plan to deal with pirated copies of xp?

kona0197

on Apr 02, 2005

I just tried the MS Windows update web page. It didn't tell me to turn on the auto-update.

_02

on Apr 02, 2005

I'll let ya know

It did'nt work for me, Zero.

_02

on Apr 02, 2005

isnt that part of ms' plan to deal with pirated copies of xp?

It probably is. My copy of XP is not pirated. It has been authenticated on their web site. It came with my computer. Since my copy of XP is legite I dont know why some of us have to turn on auto, and some of us dont. It is another mystery!

Double Zero

on Apr 02, 2005

It did'nt work for me, Zero.

Well thats odd...::sighs:: maybe it will just take a little longer for MS's systems to be updated??.. I dont know.
I didnt attempt to do it right away, I just stuck with my usually update routine - once a week and on my next update, the week after I had to go through the steps of turning on Auto updates I was allowed to perform the updates without the hassel of turning on the auto feature..
So far I have done 3 instances of updates with no "Hassel" .. It is odd that it only made me do it that 1 time...

Hopefully it will change at some point for you as well,
Take Care,
Zero.

_02

on Apr 02, 2005

Me too, Zero!

Hazylunarrain

on Apr 04, 2005

Well, I'm not sayin who, but theres someone I know who has a not so legit (NOT PIRATED) copy of XP Pro that got it from an IT guy who got a "intro" version at a conference he/she went to. No activation process... But when queried about things of this nature he/she said that they never had to do anything of this nature... More likely it's just MS trying to "take over" everyone's computers. Jerks!

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Lantec

on Apr 04, 2005

Cindi, I get the message like you do. Thing is I not only have updates turned off but I also have the process service turned off in the component manager "services.msc" I think the response is for computers which don't have the "service" loaded.

_02

on Apr 04, 2005

Same here. I will turn it back on in services.msc,but leave it turned off in security and check it out. Thanks for the idea!

_02

on Apr 04, 2005

That was the ticket! I first tried it with it turned on for manual. No go. Had to do it with automatic. Still have it tuned off in security in control panel. It works! Thanks alot Lantec.

And thanks to everyone. I really appreciate it! Smile!

Elesarr

on Apr 04, 2005

Hazylunarrain,
Being an IT professional myself who has worked on the Microsoft Campus as well as attending many of the same conferences I can assure you that there is a registration code that has to be entered to activate the software. If there is not then it is pirated, or it is a version that lacks many of the featuires and is limited: remember even trial downloads require an activation key of their software.

It is not an attempt to "take over" everyone's computer - that is a paranoid comment and what leads to misinformation and panic for less tech savvy individuals. If you run WinXP you already have them on your computer (or any version of their software for that matter).

The change was made to increase the ease and efficiency of getting updates installed. The majority of problems on people's computer's relate to the end-user not installing a security patch or update; however the end-user immediately blames Microsoft for the problem instead of being responsible and installing the required patches. One only has to turn on the automatic update feature - you still have the option of whether or not to install them automatically or not.

clwoods,
the auto update feature only allows the computer to check for any updates avaialble for your computer. The same protocol is run when you do it manually - it does not give Microsoft any more or any less control over your computer by checking for updates manually: the auto update feature just keeps you from having to remember to go and check for updates.

From Microsoft Support:

Why is this change important?

Previously, a user had to navigate to multiple locations to keep Windows components and applications secure. Now, when a user enables Automatic Updates, Windows and associated applications are kept secure and up-to-date. Users choosing to go to the Microsoft Update Web site receive all high priority updates in one location.

What threats does it help mitigate?

This change helps mitigate situations where users neglect to install updates for other Windows applications. Users are kept secure against attacks that target known vulnerabilities in Windows or other Microsoft applications.

What works differently?

Users now consistently receive security updates and high priority patches for Windows content and other applications by either navigating to the Microsoft Update site and clicking Express, or turning on Automatic Updates. Users receive security updates and patches for Windows content and other applications through one mechanism and destination. Users that navigate to the Microsoft Update site and click the Custom option receive security updates and high priority patches, plus other optional updates, which are of lower priority.

Read the full descripton of changes here: Link

Lantec

on Apr 05, 2005

Glad I could help

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