I need The Skins Factory and Kona to read this, please

Published on June 22, 2005 By _02 In WinCustomize Talk

Thanks guys for you interest in helping end horse slaughter in America. I have sent you both an email via The Humane Society so you can ask your state Senators to support the Sweeney-Sprat bill to end this horrible act. It is not spam! Thanks again, I really appreciate it, and also left you a comment in my Save the Domestic Horse thread. Take care. Cindi

Comments (Page 2)

_02

on Jun 23, 2005

I would gladly send them $3.50 us (price of a whaleburger) every week to keep them from killing any at all.

Me too. I don't mean to be ugly about other countries, but they have some very bizarre tastes in meat in the Orient. They ate those monkeys and got that horrible epidemic of disease from it. They also boil cats alive and skin them alive so they can have fresh meat at the restraunts. Simular to ordering fresh lobster. They keep the cats in cages till they need them to fill an order. May God strike me dead if I were to ever think that my tastebuds should be gratified by killing a cat or whale or horse for eating. These are not described in the bible as one of the animals we are to eat. America needs to stop killing the horses and stop supporting these countries that have no regard for life. There are enough poor animals in horrid conditions being slaughtered for food. It will make ya sick.

kona0197

on Jun 23, 2005

Clwoods - The Bible says all animals are for eating. I suggest you do more research.

Sleeping Dragon

on Jun 23, 2005

Genesis 9:3
"Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you"

Sleeping Dragon

on Jun 23, 2005

...but "a wise man considers the life of his beast"
Utilizing animals for food and flippant disregard for life are two very different things.

_02

on Jun 23, 2005

You got me there. But I know the bible. I am going by old testament from Leviticus and Dueteronomy. I know that Jesus changed the laws made in the old testament when he was on earth. But, my point is, that people are so self centered and greedy to satisfy themselves, that they do not care what kind of suffering they cause in order to do it. To me it is immoral and terrible. God also put us in charge of taking care of the animals. I think the disesase that they got for eating the monkeys was a message that that is not the right thing to do. Common sense and love for others should tell them that eating something that is only seperated from us one DNA structure is wrong. Whales are one of the smartest creatures on earth. Cats should not be boiled and skinned alive nor Horses throats slit while they hang upside down alive so some one can satisfy their tastebuds. Just because something is deemed okay, does that mean our brains should fall out of our heads nor common sense and descencey fly out the window. The cows, pigs and chickens are already being tortured so we can eat. Must we keep on adding more animals to the suffering? We are a disposable world. What is not needed anymore for work or gain is tossed aside, tortured, neglected, forgotten, or inhumanely killed that we may yet again get something out of it. I am sure God did not intend for us to do that no matter what is considered clean or unclean food.

_02

on Jun 23, 2005

Utilizing animals for food and flippant disregard for life are two very different things.

Thank you. You're absolutely right, Bill.

kona0197

on Jun 23, 2005

Let me guess - your a vegetarian?

_02

on Jun 23, 2005

No, I wish I was. My chemical make up does not do well on a vegetarian diet. I have tried several times through out my life. As I grow older though it is getting harder and harder for me to eat meat. I do not eat chicken anymore. I can't even eat the fish I catch because I saw them alive. Last time I tried to eat the large mouth bass I caught, I threw up. My neighbor raises goats for food, and I can not eat those either. I see them running around everyday. The babies are so cute. He brings fresh meat to us on occasion, but my husband is the only one that eats it. I only eat eggs from free roaming hens, or my neighbors. He has chickens too. I love their eggs. They have almost an acre of freedom. The yolk is orange, not the sickly yellow that comes from the poor chickens kept packed in cages so tight they can't even move. You may laugh, but that is me, and I make no appologies. I like who I am. And being or not being a vegetarian has nothing to do with treating all living things with respect.

kona0197

on Jun 23, 2005

kona0197 rolls his eyes...

Sorry CLwoods - I'm one of those guys that likes to go hunting. I have a killer instinct. I love beef, pork, chicken. I can't stand seafood though - the smell is disgusting. So I guess I could care less how my food gets killed.

Anyhow - humans were made to eat meat - look at your teeth - they are made to shread meat.

DigitalCHET

on Jun 23, 2005

I hear and understand all this talk of animal slaughter and I sympathize but I can't justify doing something about that when people are slaughtered and oppressed by their own neighbours and country men... in places like Rwanda, Nicaragua, and even in our own backyards! There are people living in the streets and alleyways, whom we just casually walk by without giving them a second thought. Isn't it a bit hypocritical to be striving for animals before we do something for our fellow man?
If you know your Bible then you know that your primary call is to God, then to your neighbour, everything should come from that, including the stewardship of the environment and care of the earth -that's what the Torah says, let alone the Gospels.
I can't in good consciense fight to save animals before helping out the person on the street who begs to be fed and sleeps on a bench in the street in winter.

I mention it because I've probably been one of the worst offenders.

_02

on Jun 23, 2005

As I see it, we need to take care of every one and everything. The difference between man and animal is, man has free will and is in charge of his life and where it goes. Animals that are not running free are subject to man. They no longer have any control over their own life. Which I know has happened to millions of people too, and is another topic. But no living being on earth should be precluded because of another. Not man or animal. I am into helping all life on earth.
And while I feel for the homeless more than you know, and have fed and clothed them in my life, I feel alot of them are there by choice. Alot are not. Some people are just too lazy to make something out of their life, while others think the world owes them something, and they die waiting to get it. And I would also like to say that it apparently isn't very popular among some people for America to stand up against the tyrants that supress, kill and torture their fellow man. There has been one belly ache over it after another. We're damned if we do, and damned if we don't.

And Kona, you have no need to appologize to me. You have to live with yourself, and I have to live with myself. If you like how you are, what should it matter to you what I think of your eating habits? I am just greatful that there is not a species out there bigger and stronger than us that could round us up, torture us, and skin us alive so they have something fresh to eat, that satisfies their pallet. I know the bears and certain animals kill man everyday, but they do keep us locked up, or round us up first. They only do it to survive. We do not need all these different animals to mistreat and then eat to survive. Maybe it is payback for all of man's inconsiderations to the animal world.

kona0197

on Jun 23, 2005

The difference between man and animal is, man has free will and is in charge of his life and where it goes. Animals that are not running free are subject to man. They no longer have any control over their own life. Which I know has happened to millions of people too, and is another topic.

If you read the Bible - we are supposed to have control over all animals. I don't see that as a problem.

Anyhow - CHET had a good point. So did you. I'm somewhere in-between you both.

_02

on Jun 23, 2005

We do not have Gods permission to torture and mistreat anything or anyone. Control does not have to be a negative. Control to me would mean keeping something safe and happy. Keeping something or someone from destructive or destroyed. Not to kill and mame at will or because it suits our fancy. If God was that much into control, he wouldn't have given us free will, and he would have taken control over us by now and ended the horrible things going on here. I will say one thing, it has been a pleasure to discuss our different opinions with out getting ugly and hateful over it. That is a rare thing these days. I am the kind of person that responds to the way I am treated with the same treatment back, and you have been a gentleman, and for that I thank you.

NightTrainthedark

on Jun 23, 2005

Why not just leave religion out of it and focus on the problem.

_02

on Jun 23, 2005

in places like Rwanda,

Btw JourneyMan DigitalChet, Hotel Rhowanda is one of my favorite movies.

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